Jump to content
Poetry Magnum Opus

All Activity

This stream auto-updates     

  1. Today
  2. dr_con

    Friends in Manhattan

    TY Guys. Back in The Hot Zone gearing up for NAPO should we do that again? Ya'all wanting to be buried in my poesy;-) DC&J
  3. tonyv

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    Ladies, not to worry. There are no restrictions, real or purported, on gatherings here at PMO. Close contact is allowed and even encouraged! Tony
  4. Yesterday
  5. tonyv

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    But I don't mind if someone who knows more about the art explains the art to me. 😉 I figured that out when I took the guided tour. There was much I would have missed if I hadn't done that. I agree. The experience would be different, but the poem itself would not be better on one media or the other. (So long as the meter isn't flawed. ) Understood, and I don't disagree. I don't get behind that. In fact, I do it on purpose, lol. I love to say things like, "I hope the neighbor doesn't show up to molest us!" Even so, in this case, I just don't see "weed" as pejorative. Well, notice I didn't say anything about the meter? Even my question is posed in a way where I didn't bring it up. 😉 Figured people might be sick of that ...
  6. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    Take your time, Judi! I didn't tag you with the expectation of immediate response, and I was aware that you've been deeply absorbed in other things lately. For the amount of time you typically spend on all your poetic pursuits, I'm not at all surprised that other areas of your life need some catching up on right now! I sure know the feeling of needing to block everything else out to get a big and complicated list of things done. I'd been doing that for several weeks recently myself and have only just begun to emerge and say "hi" to my friends again! Take care and hope all goes well. ☺️
  7. Tinker

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    AB, Sorry, I bit off more than I could chew and went into a kind of hibernation in my isolation. You'd think shelter in place would mean boring with time on my hands but it has been just the opposite so far for me and this last week I couldn't do more than take care of business, doing those things I absolutely had to get done and shut down everything else. I still haven't set up the new form in the Reference section and haven't read your latest poem or anyone's for that matter. Hopefully I'll be in a better position to just read and enjoy very shortly, but I saw you tagged me and came here to let you know, I am still around and haven't commented because of my self inflicted paralysis. ~~Judi
  8. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    I figured (and removed my comment about this before your reply posted but apparently while you were writing it--this happens to us a lot!!). There's a rather fine distinction, it seems, between having art interpreted externally, and having the artwork itself "explain itself" too much, which you had said before quite pointedly that you didn't like. Of course, but I'd argue that the experience of it is different, just as it would be when reading it in one typeface or another, or in one city or another, or in one mood or another. It seems that would make for altogether too many commas! Also, the first em dash makes it clear that the following phrase inside commas is not the second item of a list (the first being "weed"), but a descriptor of "weed." In L4, I'd actually tried commas in lieu of em dashes but found the result unsatisfactory because there is quite a gap in the meaning's flow between what comes before the dashes and what comes after. The em dash is designed to help the reader cope with that kind of logical disjointment. In addition, commas here could create confusion by suggesting that "unbidden" and "vigorous" may both be intended as descriptors of "seed." That I had considered. I just hate calling the subject such a pejorative term; when I think about it, it's like using the "n" word! One word sorely needed in the English language is something non-derogatory to signify "wild plant." Would you leave the quotes around "edit"? Hmm. Let me mull/try this awhile--along with the "weed" quotes. [light sigh] Thank you! It pays to ask! 🙂 Noplace in particular; I'm just interested in spontaneous reactions--whatever jumps out at the reader, for good or ill. 🙂
  9. tonyv

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    I like and appreciate them. I took the tour when I was at the Dali Museum in FL. 😉 Yes, it is subtle, but the erudite should pick up on it. Though not a bonafide analogy, I would suggest that lines 21-26 serve very well a point I often make: A poem enjoyed on a digital display is just as good as the same poem viewed in print on the pages of a book. Keats' "Bright Star" is the same, perfect work of art viewed online that it is on the page of a physical book. I'll leave the rhyme scheme for others to discover. I barely take note of that in my own poems. 1. In L1-L4 I question whether commas would be more appropriate than em-dashes. I think they would. 2. Now, upon taking a closer look, I'm thinking I would like to see you do away all the quotation marks everywhere, throughout the poem. The discerning reader gets it. 3. The em-dashes work in L16. 4. I would replace the em-dashes in L22 & L25 with full stops. I will try to return with some more thoughts. Anyplace in particular you would like me to focus?
  10. Last week
  11. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    The allusion's a bit subtle; I don't really blame you for not getting it. I would be happy to hear your technical thoughts, if you ever have time to reread and comment! However, I know you've been a bit snowed lately. 🌨️
  12. tonyv

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    I didn't, and I should have. Even so, I often come back to re-read poems in topics where I've already replied and might have caught it on a subsequent visit. Even so, thanks for pointing it out. It deepens enjoyment/understanding/appreciation of the art -- like taking in a guided tour at the museum.
  13. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    @Tinker This is based on the Neoteric Classic form but extended with another "verse" of six lines. It felt to me like the "weeds" needed more space to spread out!
  14. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    Thanks! I'm trying to bridge the gap between science and art! Alas, I find that, unlike you, the average person conceives of "weed" as a strict category, one of which all members must be dogmatically eliminated from cultivated landscapes, as if by the royal decree of the land. That drives me mad. I sometimes ask my clients, "If your garden bed looks better with it, why remove it?" Such clients may have cultivated plants that not only look bad, but take over more aggressively than most "weeds." Since when did illogic become so institutionalized? In addition to providing potential aesthetic gains, "weeds," especially native ones, increase flora/fauna biodiversity and enhance soil health, usually not "competing" for nutrients with garden plants as some claim. What's more, edible "weeds" are typically more nutritious than garden crops and vastly more nutritious than the produce we can buy in stores. Sort of, except that "weed" is an even vaguer term; it doesn't have the dual-category definitions that "vegetable" does. It's also more pejorative (though "vegetable," when applied to a human, is, as well!). I dig all your emoticons! Did you catch the "rose by any other name" allusion at the end? 🥀
  15. tonyv

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    I don't mind weeds. What some people consider to be weeds e.g. daisies and dandelions to me are flowers. Copied/pasted from the wikipedia entry for weed: I think the message of the poem is precisely what it says in this definition, except it's crafted into a poem. It's my understanding that weed is a term like vegetable. While tomatoes and eggplants are culinary vegetables, botanically they are berries. But I am a mere layman, you are the professional gardener. Tony 🌼🌷🌱🌿🌻🌵
  16. A. Baez

    The "Weedy" Pretties

    Who are we who cannot love a “weed”— A burst of glory absent from our books, Cheerfully settling unclaimed sweeps and nooks And spreading—quite unbidden—vigorous seed? Who are we who cannot love a “weed”? We “edit” plants but excise ones we need: The improv genius in our landscapes’ scenes Bests browns of mulch with blossom-tones and greens And asks not even thank-you’s for the deed! Who are we who cannot love a “weed”? Spring can’t pick villains from among its flowers; Nature is liberal in the grace it dowers Every child of hers, wild thing and breed! The gardeners’ admonishments mislead: Some keep a peony, though it looks a fright By summer—trim and tend it as one might— Yet wrest wild aster, with its effortless grace From its self-appointed place Where floral primadonnas would recede. Who are we who cannot love a “weed”? It earns its space, true plantsmen must concede, So let us measure virtues and not names— For unbred lovelies have their own sweet games Of fragrance, form, and habit, too. I’d plead Objective quality should be our creed— This way, we’ll see the prized plant in the weed!
  17. Sounds delightful -- all of it. And sleeping in is good. I think that's what I'll do, too. 🌌
  18. Interesting! I can't imagine the cause-effect chain there, but I'll take it on faith and intuition! 🙂 Just catching up with personal business/pleasure here after a late start--I slept till after 12 this morning! Maybe my body is fighting the virus? They say most people infected with it never feel symptoms. Quiet is good. I happened to catch Schubert's magnificent String Quartet in C Major last night on the drive home, and that's still reverberating in my consciousness.
  19. A. Baez

    corona virus poems

    These have a vaguely Whitmanesque feel. I didn't read everything, but enough to get a sense. There are interesting components here; it would be nice to see these poems disciplined and distilled down to their truest essence.
  20. I think it definitely could affect it. I've seen some weird, though not serious, things happen under similar circumstances. What've you been up to, anything good? Been quiet around here.
  21. I recently cleared the cookies on my PC and had to sign into the forum again today, so maybe that had something to do with it, too, though that doesn't seem to make sense.
  22. Okay. I'm glad it started working again. When these things happen there are a number of variables. I suppose there could have been a delay from the forum or even a delay from the email provider.
  23. Incidentally, there is no "receive topic reply notifications" option specifically for Clubs. This is the whole Clubs notifications section:
  24. Despite my having changed nothing, now it's working again--I just got an email notification of your post! I guess it's another self-corrected issue! 🤨
  25. It might be in your Notification settings/preferences. Make sure receive topic reply notifications from Clubs topics is selected. If that's not the answer, let me know, and I'll look into it.
  26. A. Baez

    Sunday with Muffins

    I agree, I think you did a strong job conveying the sense of the experience you describe. I, too, particularly picked up on the power and implications of the last three lines. The poem's rhythm flowed well throughout, despite being irregular. I thought could be made more powerful by simply saying and though this would shorten the line, I think the effect would be invigorating rather than jarring. "Sunlit" should not be hyphenated. Nice title, belying the turmoil that lies behind it. The contrasts of health centers are fascinating!
  27. A. Baez

    Stalker

    There is an inherent power in this form, and I think you've used it well in a number of ways. I like the sharp, colorful commentary--especially the imaginative and surprisingly effective third line--of and forms a really nice, smooth contrast, with its euphonious triad of verbs in the first line echoed by the triad of calm, rounded end-line sounds mirroring these lines' theme. I love the unexpected yet oddly right (to me, at least) image/metaphor of the "dome"--it makes me think of the harmonious, expansive geodesic dome home the Crystal Hermitage that I visited at the Ananda spiritual community in Nevada City, CA! And to me, "poem" is the perfect way to end this triad--the half-rhyme works perfectly, focusing our attention on that word and its significance, reminding us how poetry can serve as a psychological remedy for all manner of ills.
  28. Okay, good for me and good for you! Yes, good move. Who needs the temptation to self-referentialism? 😆 It seems I'm not receiving email notifications now from this site? I didn't get one for your last two comments here.
  1. Load more activity
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Guidelines.