Jump to content
Registration -- to join PMO ***UPDATED INSTRUCTIONS*** Read more... ×
IMPORTANT: re Logging In to PMO ***Attention Members*** Read more... ×
Poetry Magnum Opus
Sign in to follow this  
tonyv

Fact in Poetry vs. Poetic License

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

I recently finished listening to a "Poetry Podcast," available at the website for The New Yorker, called "How Do You Fact-Check a Poem?" It features a fact-checker for The New Yorker. I wasn't aware that publications had fact-checkers for poetry.

I do a lot of fact checking whenever I work on a poem. Many of my poems involve geography, and I want to make sure that my geographical references are accurate. Fact checking is important to me, and I want to save myself the embarrassment that would come from getting directions, longitudes and latitudes, weather and seasons, or flora and fauna wrong. For example, in my recent poem "Vintages," I mention that elsewhere, where it is summer, clusters of grapes are growing and await their harvesting. Though I did not expressly declare it in the poem, the speaker is in the Northern Hemisphere where, tonight, the temperature will drop to 20F (-6.6C). However, Argentina is at the height of summer, and the temperature there is currently 99F (37.2C). Yes, grapes are growing right now in the Southern Hemisphere from which the next vintage will yield! I have written other poems where a discrepancy would be even more apparent and it was even more important to me that geographical references made sense. In my poem "Prudhoe Bay," I make reference to the north pole; I refer to it as "ninety degrees north." I had to look into that to make sure that that actually is the coordinate for the north pole, and it is; zero degrees would be the equator. There have been several other instances where it has mattered to me a great deal that my facts, geographical and others, were expressed correctly.

Then there is the matter of artistic license. Sometimes it is possible to get so bogged down with fact that one loses sight of the art and its message. In my poem "Goodbye," I was dealing with what seemed like chronological inconsistency, and I could not decide on past versus present tense in a part of the poem. An esteemed PMO member, @Benjamin, reminded me that, "Yes I think this poem works fine in the present tense with the chronological issues you stated -- 'it is poetry after all' -- and the appreciative reader still requires the courtesy of having a little imaginative work to do ... " I appreciated this help very much, and it comes to mind whenever I start to get overly bogged down with facts while composing a poem.

Do you fact check when writing poetry? To what extent?


View full record

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, my first reaction was WHY?.  It's a poem, the poet takes on a persona and tells a story.  It is all made up. But then it isn't always made up.  And especially  when writing in a particular era or about real characters or geographical places, yes facts should be correct. I too have done fact checking for some of my poems.   For one thing if you have a recognized fact in the piece it makes the rest of the piece more believable, even if the other part is just fiction.  The point is to get the reader to feel what you feel.  We don't want the reader to be distracted by an obvious error in fact.  Interesting.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I had to adjust a few settings which I new would cause some comments in this topic to disappear, so I took some screenshots to save the conversation. I'll paste them below.

2018-07-14 (1).png

2018-07-14 (2).png

2018-07-14 (3).png

2018-07-14 (4).png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your content will need to be approved by a moderator

Guest
You are commenting as a guest. If you have an account, please sign in.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Guidelines.