tonyv Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The weatherman was right: today, there came a squall. When jets cannot alight, the weatherman was right. "Cars and buses fight, and traffic's at a crawl." The weatherman was right today. There came a squall. _______________ JOHN HUGHES Planes, Trains, and Automobiles Original version: The weatherman was right: today, there came a squall. When jets cannot alight, the weatherman was right. "Cars and buses fight, and traffic's at a crawl. The weatherman was right!" Today, there came a squall. Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waxwings Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) I wonder if I have missed something, for way back L6 was to be a rep of L2, or so I thought. That, of course made the triolet more of a challenge, because the major rule is to have L6 to logically, syntactically and semantically segue into what L7, the clincher line, says. I wonder if the change is due to a desire to modernize old forms, make them less rigid. Many triolets fail at just that point. may be just the ticket. Not that it matters, for I enjoy this one, a telling poem and one fun to read and contemplate. Changing the 'punctuation' (and, therefore, the tempo) is laudable. waxwings Edited December 16, 2009 by waxwings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandra Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Tony, this poem ( triolet or not - doesn't matter to me :) ) is another wonderful and cute piece by you. It's amazing how you are getting inspiration to write such interesting poems and how you are playing with forms. How did you find this? I love it: The weather man was right:today, there came a squall. You make me think a lot... :) Much enjoyed. Aleksandra Quote The poet is a liar who always speaks the truth - Jean Cocteau History of Macedonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 I wonder if I have missed something, for way back L6 was to be a rep of L2, or so I thought. That, of course made the triolet more of a challenge, because the major rule is to have L6 to logically, syntactically and semantically segue into what L7, the clincher line, says. I wonder if the change is due to a desire to modernize old forms, make them less rigid. Many triolets fail at just that point. may be just the ticket. Not that it matters, for I enjoy this one, a telling poem and one fun to read and contemplate. Changing the 'punctuation' (and, therefore, the tempo) is laudable. waxwings Thanks, waxwings. I can't purport to know; I'm new to the form. It's just a lazy way for me, this dabbling in triolets ... I find that they're easier to write than sonnets :)) Thanks, as always, for your considered read and thoughts. Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Tony, this poem ( triolet or not - doesn't matter to me :) ) is another wonderful and cute piece by you. It's amazing how you are getting inspiration to write such interesting poems and how you are playing with forms. How did you find this? I love it: The weather man was right:today, there came a squall. You make me think a lot... :) Much enjoyed. Aleksandra Thanks, Alek. :) But I must say that this one wasn't much inspired. I'm almost afraid to confront any real sources of inspiration these days. Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandra Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'm almost afraid to confront any real sources of inspiration these days. Tony I wonder why? You should not turn your back on inspiration. To be afraid of it means to be afraid of yourself... :D ( how poetical I am ;) ) I hope will come the right one -- inspiration I mean :) . Aleksandra Quote The poet is a liar who always speaks the truth - Jean Cocteau History of Macedonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) Another triolet, fun to read, Tony. waxwings always sets high standards to the from poems. But hey, there are always variations. :icon_sunny: Season's greetings and all. Lake Edited December 18, 2009 by Lake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 I hope will come the right one -- inspiration I mean :) . I hope so, too, Alek. Thanks, again. Another triolet, fun to read, Tony. waxwings always sets high standards to the from poems. But hey, there are always variations. :icon_sunny: Season's greetings and all. Lake Thank you, too, Lake. Glad you liked it. And seasons greetings to you, too! Tony :) PS -- I'm adding a slightly revised version above the original. Not sure which one's better. Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandra Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Tony. I looked now in your revision and it's interesting how the sound and the way of the poem has changed. I can not say which one is better. A small playing with punctuation and there is coming to some perfection. I love how perfectionist you are. At the original version you have some compatibility of the start and the end of the poem. The narrator says the same thing, narrating that today, there came a squall.. At the revised version, you go out of the balance with what you are saying at the beginning and what at the end of the poem. In this version you leave the reader in confusion to wonder at the end of the poem. Here the narrator turns on different side, not so easy as in the original version, when he writes that The weatherman was right today.. So in the original today came a squall, and at the revised today the weather man was right. You stressed the point of the poem very different and interesting. I love the more confusing version :) . Aleksandra Quote The poet is a liar who always speaks the truth - Jean Cocteau History of Macedonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted January 3, 2010 Author Share Posted January 3, 2010 Tony. I looked now in your revision and it's interesting how the sound and the way of the poem has changed. I can not say which one is better. A small playing with punctuation and there is coming to some perfection. I love how perfectionist you are. At the original version you have some compatibility of the start and the end of the poem. The narrator says the same thing, narrating that today, there came a squall.. At the revised version, you go out of the balance with what you are saying at the beginning and what at the end of the poem. In this version you leave the reader in confusion to wonder at the end of the poem. Here the narrator turns on different side, not so easy as in the original version, when he writes that The weatherman was right today.. So in the original today came a squall, and at the revised today the weather man was right. You stressed the point of the poem very different and interesting. I love the more confusing version :) . Aleksandra I love your astute observations re the rewrite versus the original and that you took another look at this, Alek. (I, too, like the rewrite, the "more confusing" version. :) I think it's more true-to-the-form.) Thank you for coming back to it! Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worm Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Too few lines, too few words to be able to employ, but you give a full play to the limited space of this form. the perfect conduct of punctuations speaks, producing a picturesque effect of the weather broadcasted. Classic poem for me to read again. I’ve got more about trio and its flexibility from this poem. Much appreciated Tony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Too few lines, too few words to be able to employ, but you give a full play to the limited space of this form. the perfect conduct of punctuations speaks, producing a picturesque effect of the weather broadcasted. Classic poem for me to read again. I’ve got more about trio and its flexibility from this poem. Much appreciated Tony! In my opinion, punctuation is the key to this form. It makes the magic. The triolet is indeed fun, and I'm glad you're getting excited about its possibilities! Thank you, Worm, for taking note of this one. I'm humbled. Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank E Gibbard Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I was drawn to the title as fan of the late director and like the implied tribute to John Hughes. The form is not known to me but it reads fine to me and the situation a perfect storm Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 I was drawn to the title as fan of the late director and like the implied tribute to John Hughes. The form is not known to me but it reads fine to me and the situation a perfect storm Tony. He brought a lot of laughs to a lot of people. Lots of good memories there, too. I'm glad you liked it, Frank. Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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