Frank E Gibbard Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 If there is an eternal shame in that rotten history that is his story and Man the name one is whiteman's genocide of the Native American tribe. Blame like a terrible typhoon blows blindingly and unkindly an indelible stain across that age bloodied in malevolence on page after page of a past whose relevance can never be erased or else otherwise appraised. They were crimes of the unprepossessing times possessing lack of humanity, processes smacking of near insanity to be so blind in fear and hate of their fellow kind. Dispossession by force has been the way of brutish Man since a stoneage bully stole a bone, the first weapon for mass destruction ever known predecessor of deadly guns Rifles' full mastery of the bow brought the warrior braves so low, whittled down the buffalo. A great big shame, a stain of blame, an open sore remains, abiding legacy of frontier war. Quote
dcmarti1 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Dispossession by force has been the way of brutish Man since a stoneage bully stole a bone, Forceful poem. More thoughtful than most peoples' (re: Americans') "knowledge" of history......... Quote
dedalus Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Australian aborigines? And what about the Tasman people, who were completely wiped out? Your lot tried to do the same to the Irish in the 16th century, and again in the wake of O'Neill's nearly successful rebellion (1594-1603) but your hands grew tired, we survived, and now we live in a Republic. Water under the bridge, old friend, but we came within an ace of being destroyed as an ancient, separate European culture. Cheers. Bren Quote Drown your sorrows in drink, by all means, but the real sorrows can swim
Frank E Gibbard Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 Australian aborigines? And what about the Tasman people, who were completely wiped out? Your lot tried to do the same to the Irish in the 16th century, and again in the wake of O'Neill's nearly successful rebellion (1594-1603) but your hands grew tired, we survived, and now we live in a Republic. Cheers. Bren I do not consider myself part of a "lot" Bren, whatever I am my Mother of beloved memory was originally Irish emigrated with Nan Doyle to your benighted London (sans streets paved with gold) married a man who was only half English, he doted on Eire as he called it having been brought up there as a Flynn descendant. I am certainly not proud of English or British history through slavery imperialism and so much more but have found my nationality only by accident of birth. My poem was provoked by thinking of the particular instance of unfairness by one group on another, could have chosen your examples and of course so many more. I am no patriot at all except where my sports' enthusiasms are concerned. Frank Quote
dedalus Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Fair enough, Frank. Apologies if needed! Trouble is, I'm a raging patriot myself, which is probably easier when one comes from a small place that hasn't been gallivanting around smiting enemies and enslaving natives for quite some time. Although we HAVE done so under foreign colours, generally British but also French, Spanish and Austrian. Roughly a third of Wellington's army was Irish .... All the best, Bren Quote Drown your sorrows in drink, by all means, but the real sorrows can swim
tonyv Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 ... Trouble is, I'm a raging patriot myself, which is probably easier when one comes from a small place that hasn't been gallivanting around smiting enemies and enslaving natives for quite some time ... I wonder why that is. I was watching a television special about a convicted attorney in New York, on home confinement awaiting his sentencing, who stole hundreds of millions of dollars with various schemes. He was likened to a mini-Madoff. Not that I agree with him, but he said something to the effect of, "What makes me any different from the petty thief? There are some people who won't commit crime as a matter of principle, and I respect that, but most people probably don't steal larger sums simply because they don't have the opportunity. I had the opportunity." I wonder how this theory would apply to nation-states. Would the oppressed become oppressors given the opportunity? Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic
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