Larsen M. Callirhoe Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 sorry bout all this but now ypu see how i write many of my poems. the words i use are endless it seems at times.lol i might do a 3rd revision of this one incorporating the best of both 2nd revisions. lol hehe after reflection on this one heavily i will try not to accuse hoping for sarcasim in this one still. i am taking heed of what david said on this one very seriously because in reflecting on this one i feel i have to agree with his remarks and i understand what he is insinuating.I feel the same way in my thoughts. i hope this one works. and if anyone thinks i can add, change, or remove something from this. i am open for suggestions. even changging sentence placement or structure. i know here this poem the way i have the general context presented is descent but i want a awesome read for i feel the subject i am talking about in this one and the context format in this one is already exceptional in my opinion, ok first revision had to much nonsense in it. the second revision gives a little more clarity for a few lines were added and a tiny bit more was removed from second revision.. 3rd revision and i know this will be my last one regardless for now lol... So Logical… When I was very young I thought I was so logical. At that age I believed I would have many lovers and then get married. Actually I only had two lovers and one sweetheart. In the future I will have eight wonderful lovers. In my heart the divine showed me a image of this while I was praying. A month after our marriage a tragedy happened and I became disabled. Soon after this she left. I was heart broken and mad at God. My life has a void in it and I am living in a massive pile of tangled up weeds now. What can I really truly do? I reside in a nursing domicile praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. I realize my money is all gone and I am seeking deliverance from my infirmities. Maybe in another life I will be blessed for enduring all the baloney thrown at me in this life. All I want is love just like everyone else. 173 words 30 lines first 2nd revision and hopefully the last for this one lol. So Logical... When I was very young I thought I was so logical. At one time I thought a hundred lovers would sleep with me then after that I would get married. Truth be told I only had two lovers and one sweetheart. I know in the future I will have eight more lovers. In my heart the divine showed me this while I was praying. A month into my marriage I became disabled in a accident. This tragedy would make my wife leave me eventually. I was heart broken and mad at God. My life has a void in it now that I am living in a tangled up pile of weeds. What can I really truly do? I reside in a nursing domicile praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. I realize my money is gone now. I am seeking deliverance from my infirmities by God also. Maybe in another life I will be blessed for enduring garbage and baloney from this world I live in. All I want is love just like everyone else. 34 lines 180 words ************************************************ this one has 4 less lines then the 2nd revision and 1 less line un it then the original version. this one has 25 more words in it then the original and 13 less words then the first 2nd revision. both 2nd revisions i feel capture my essence still. 2nd version of 2nd revision So Logical... I felt I was so logical at a very younger age. At that age I believed I would have many lovers and then get married. Actually I only had two lovers and one sweetheart. In the future I will have eight more lovers. In my heart the divine showed me a image of this while I was praying. A month into our marriage a tragedy happened and I became disabled. This destroyed us, I was heart broken and mad at God. My life has a void in it. For I am living in a massive pile of tangled up weeds now. What can I really truly do? I reside in a nursing domicile praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. I realize my money is all gone and I am seeking deliverance from my infirmities. Maybe in another life I will be blessed for enduring all the baloney thrown at me in this life. All I want is love just like everyone else. 30 lines 167 words ******************************************************** 1st Revised version... So Logical... When I was young I thought I was so logical and sincere. Back then in my thoughts I dwelled on having a hundred lovers. Along the way I would get hitched and marry. Truth be told I only had two lovers and one sweetheart till the tragedy struck me. I know in the future I will have eight more lovers. Call it intuition or grace of the divine being a real heavenly promise from God whatnot. Who knew I would become paralyzed in this life? This would destroy my marriage as my wife would leave me two years later. The divorce finalized six months after that. I was mad at God. Who wouldn't be in my position. My life has a big void now that my money has been spent on medical bills that are over- whelming my freedom to live. My sanity is lost over this stuff that is not even my own fault. What can I truly do? I reside in a nursing home praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. I also hope I would have deliverance of my infirmities. Maybe in another life I will be blessed because of all the suffering and nonsense I went thru in this life. All I want is love just like everyone else. 44 lines 217 words ********************************************************* Original So Logical... When I was young I thought I was so logical. I thought I would have a 100 lovers and then get married. Truth be told I only had two lovers and one sweetheart. I know in the future I will have 8 more lovers. Call it intuition, an act of God, or a sign from the divine whatnot. Who knew I would become paralyzed and have my life change as my new wife left me two years later. I was mad at God. Who wouldn't be in my position. Now I am broke and penniless. I live in a nursing home praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. Maybe in another life I will be blessed because of all the suffering and nonsense I went thru in this life. All I want is love just like everyone else. 31 lines 142 words Quote Larsen M. Callirhoe
Tinker Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Hi Victor, You certainly don't hold anything back in this one. I like the direct yet fluid manner in which you present your thoughts. Of course the content saddens me but you continue to find a way to connect with others through your writing. That is a gift. ~~Tink Quote ~~ © ~~ Poems by Judi Van Gorder ~~ For permission to use this work you can write to Tinker1111@icloud.com
Aleksandra Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Again your sad voice Vic. But yes I am happy to have you here, and for being a friend, and yes the writing is a gift and blessing I think. So keep writing, keep up your mood, ah yes keep your computer too, for to keep in touch as we all should do lol Mine starts to break Good poem Vic, Alek Quote The poet is a liar who always speaks the truth - Jean Cocteau History of Macedonia
tonyv Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Hi Victor, It seems that your use of the word logical in the title is ironic, especially since the first lines refer to when the narrator was an idealistic youth: When I was young I thought I was so logical. I thought I would have a 100 lovers and then get married. The poem continues with a dose of reality -- Truth be told I only had two lovers/and one sweetheart (which, btw, is probably the case for most normal people) -- accompanied by an unexpected delve into the fantastical: I know in the future I will have 8 more lovers. Call it intuition, an act of God, or a sign from the divine whatnot. Then, it's back to realism -- Who knew I would become paralyzed and have my life change as my new wife left me two years later. I was mad at God. Who wouldn’t be in my position. Now I am broke and penniless. I live in a nursing home praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions -- followed by prayerful hopefulness -- Maybe in another life I will be blessed because of all the suffering and nonsense I went thru in this life -- and a painfully obvious summation that anyone can understand: All I want is love just like everyone else. The poem itself is quite logical. Fascinating and well done! Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic
Larsen M. Callirhoe Posted September 3, 2011 Author Posted September 3, 2011 actually everyone i think this poem is not that bad. it delves into my reality, my outlook from several perspectives, and is compact. victor Quote Larsen M. Callirhoe
David W. Parsley Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 Victor, this poems delivers the original emotion of the author cleanly. This is partly due to the brevity, the ruthless excision of extraneous lines. The emotional outburst, when it comes, is carried by this power and delivers a wallop at the end. This is your most well-honed poem. Specifically, like Tony, I respond to the ironic use of "logic" to convey a yearning for when things seemed inevitably bound to an exuberant journey to find the One, who would join and enable a beautiful existence. Forgive me, but there seems to be too much original and startling material here to be satisifed with the prosaic lines of stanza 7. I would suggest something more like "When I was told that the money is gone, when I..." That kind of tone, for me, allows a more active engagement. I sympathize with your journey, and your need to tell. This poem brings it with vitality and skill. - Dave Quote
Frank E Gibbard Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Heart rending Larse and basic, needing no more words naturally as only you can personally testify to,most movingly to the point. Frank Quote
Larsen M. Callirhoe Posted October 4, 2011 Author Posted October 4, 2011 thank you everyone for your comments. i will revise part of this because of dave's comments.. thank you for the remarks dave. i like what you said and agree with your comments. they are much appreciated. victor Quote Larsen M. Callirhoe
David W. Parsley Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Hi Victor, reading over the two versions, I realized that I may have inadvertently disturbed a clean poetic creation with my comment on stanza 7. Like you, I take comments from fellow poets very seriously. As recent examples, Badger and Geoff/Benjamin have helped me in this way, as have Tony and Tinker though they may not know it. But sometimes it backfires and my attempts to respond to constructive criticism result in a less effective production. I may have been party to such an event here. So let me begin by eating a piece of humble pie and recommending restoration of the original stanzas, with the possible exception of stanza 7. For that one stanza, I still feel a certain dissatisfaction, so I put the original and revised versions side by side (below). My life has a big void now that my money has been spent on medical bills that are over- whelming my freedom to live. My sanity is lost over this stuff that is not even my own fault. What can I truly do? I reside in a nursing home praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. I also hope I would have deliverance of my imfirmities. Now I am broke and penniless. I live in a nursing home praying everyday that I will still have a computer that functions. After reflection, I realize that I greatly prefer the brevity and understated quality of the original. How devastating to know that the speaker hopes for something as simple as a functioning computer! All the rest presses upon the reader with greater weight because it is not stated. So what is still bothering me? It is really just the first two lines of the stanza. Again, something more understated, or oblique ("when I realized that the money was gone..." or some such thing) would work better, I think. But after all, it is your creation, and you must trust to your own star, your own passion for language and expression. I am just here to applaud and occasionally offer a tweak. Nice work. - Dave Quote
Larsen M. Callirhoe Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 DAVE, i didn't take heed of anything you said but with the highest regard and respect. i posted this version hoping for some comments on this such as yours such as where to trim it perhaps, i might leave some facts out even if it better explains my situation in another revision. i do see what you mean btw. i was thinking about what you said anyway even before i posted it. i know we all have talent here. but with everyone given imput on a pasttime we all enjoy here being one of our writings when we post a poem on a forum such as this one. our poetry looks like a scholar wrote it. and the next poem i post is half prose and is long lol. i want that one like it is. but i am writing like crazy. i am working on 4 new poems and revising 2 old ones. victor Quote Larsen M. Callirhoe
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