dr_con Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Lost in Thought Lost in thought hear your voice complaining Nothing at best a Mechanism with stolen words and stolen stories you would not could not pass the Turing Test But in my defense how many of us could? The conflicting expectations the boolean logics passing us by the Gateless Gates with insistences of our Culture Do you know what is True and what be False? How many have looked behind old Freud’s screen and seen their Dwarf in the basement of the Salvation Army? What I heard although this is not what was said When his students spoke about Spirit the Sufi yelled Do you know your Dwarf? And for the shy this was a reference to Sex since most never know what they want rather they know what they are told that they want and without clarification words are just words and if you want to make love on the cold stone floor of a second hand clothing store to a mythic crafter of bad sleep you need to know! Or how can we ever calculate anything at all? Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmarti1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Know your dwarf.....Oh, man, this is going to make me do some research. Do love the ending: can we calculate anything at all. There is a great insistency here, but not desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks for the read! Good luck with finding this version of the Dwarf ;-) My Zen teacher has told a dirtier version of this in the past, and I have repurposed it for my own nefarious ends ;-) Juris Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 This one set me off at a tangent: In business there are two columns: profit and loss which are fuddled by semantics, but only the net profit matters. In life's relationships similarly, two columns: "give and take". Although the semantics there are usually self-delusion and lies; for we all lie, to each other and ourselves in variable degrees. And fathoming human nature, how would it cope with a world of absolute truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Thanks G! Not a tangent@all rather a thematic deconstruction which I'm very impressed by. Many thanks for engaging! Juris Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks, Juris, for making me think! 1. ... Do you know what is True and what be False? 2. ... most never know what they want rather they know what they are told that they want ... 3. ... Or how can we ever calculate anything at all? 1. I used to think I knew. 2. I think for many people this is true. Not true for me. 3. I ask myself some version of this all the time. This one set me off at a tangent: In business there are two columns: profit and loss which are fuddled by semantics, but only the net profit matters. In life's relationships similarly, two columns: "give and take". Although the semantics there are usually self-delusion and lies; for we all lie, to each other and ourselves in variable degrees. And fathoming human nature, how would it cope with a world of absolute truth. Incredible insight, Geoff. I seem to suffer fom the self-delusion part. I just don't get that they lie, because I don't understand why they would lie (as much as they do anyway). I think they think they're slick (when they're really just greasy). Tony Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Thank you Tony! A very insightful look @ the piece. Greatly appreciate the time and add Alexis verified you enjoyed. Juris Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W. Parsley Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hey, Doc, I am starting to think many of your poems could be categorized as some type of Turing test. I'd like to see what Watson, for all "his" Jeopadry prowess, would make of this poem, for instance. Hopefully, it would not result in some attempt at incarnation coupled with an assignation with Sandman (Sandwoman?) at a second hand store arranged through Match.com... - Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thank you David! In the Rinzai tradition, of the Zen monks they thought highly of... they Would call them as dumb as a mule with stolen words etc. Thought I'd modernize the concept :-) the makers of bad dreams is one, I believe Norwegian, activity attributed to dwarves. The makers of nightmares. In which case some of my exes would fall in that category: boom chicka! Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen M. Callirhoe Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I see some mysticism type wisdom in this piece after reading wonderful Tony's remarks to said piece that I didn't notice or catch glancing at your piece first time around and I as I read it a third time - I see the Zen wisdom at the end f the piece after looking at Ben's remarks casual. What a masterfully scripted poetry write. Really enjoyed the read... Thank you for sharing.... victor Quote Larsen M. Callirhoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Thanks Viktor! As always appreciate the feedback. JURIS Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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