bob Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Three Fingers and a Thumb In a flawed world of Did and Did Not Where blame of plenty is found There are critics with a You Did It Finger In abundance to go around It’s my decision to bespeak this Would critics falter or linger To place vast blame on others If man had no Pointer Finger Robert G. Jerore 3/22/2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Baez Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 What an interesting concept! I like it--pointing the blame at the pointer finger! 👈 😁 I could make a few minor suggestions on this, if you open to it; let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 A. Baez I do not mind critiquing by any means, I think I wrote it as I thought it, however you have my permission to use the same title; Three Fingers and a Thumb, and submit your own version. As I have determined in my life time...no two people think alike. Look forward to see what you have in mind. R. G. Jerore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just plain fun! An enjoyable romp. TY! Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Baez Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hi Bob, so sorry that for some reason I did not see the notification for your reply--I just found it yesterday after checking out the notification for dr_con's. While I was thinking of simply noting a few potentially tweakable areas in your poem, since you've invited me to present these thoughts in poetic form, I've tried. By the way, your title is cute! Three Fingers and a Thumb In a flawed world of "did" and "did not" With plenty of blame to go round, The critics with "you did it" fingers Are equally easily found. This points to a curious thought: Would critics falter or linger In silence before blaming others If man had no pointer finger? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hi A. Baez Thanks for the return critique. Just for the fun of it. Lets say I am going to analyze my poem. Analyzing sometimes takes the fun and pleasure out f writing. None-the-less I’ll give it a go. It does however give pause to thought, “did I really say what I was thinking?” Self critiquing is very important, and in the case of your critique, I will add this; “No matter how many persons read a poem or written statement, there is a great possibility each person may see the total picture quite differently than someone else. That was a general consensus of how our radio programs were interpreted, when we, as children had to imagine happenings or locations mentioned in our thriller programs. Many of us could create a different picture in our minds during the story. First line: When we speak/write of our nine worlds (Pronoun)in this solar system, (naming the planets with capitol lettered names.) So be it in my poem...A flawed, world of Did and Did Not. Remember this is purely a hypothetical world/planet in my mind. Second line: Clinches the fact... I am referring to a major fault of that planet's/world's, population, which is criticizing others. Third line: Supposedly, my knowing there is such a world, my assumption is...there are critics with a You Did it Finger (Capitalized), and not a Pointer, Middle Finger, Ring Finger, Little Finger, and Thumb. Fourth line: True, as you state ”easily found”. not “equally”...I say this only because of an “abundance” of that physical trait, but not a trait of all of its populace. Fifth line: Referring to the Sixth line: "I’ve got to ask this question". Sixth line: “WOULD” critics (of that planet) hesitate to criticize? Seventh line: To blame anyone for wrong doing?Eight line: Assuming their species (not man) has no Pointer Finger, as we relate to one of ours? I should have stated "THEY" had no Pointer Finger...not Man. *********************************************** Well? What do you think "A" did we tear it apart well enough? Thanks for the return comments. I enjoyed it. We just have to reconsider one thing..."the same story read by different persons can be interpreted quite differently. Sometimes changing a word, phrase or sentence, can change an entire thought process of what the writer was attempting to portray." Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Baez Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Bob, I know you're happy with your version, but since you've explained your reasons, I'll briefly explain mine: 1) Okay, the planet reference eluded me, and I still don't see the reason for the bolded letters there or below. 2) Okay, but "blame of plenty" doesn't really make sense to me. You mean the blaming of plenty of people or circumstances? Or blaming aplenty? 3) Same as #1. 4) I meant that critics are equally easy to find as blame is. I was just looking for an alternative to your version because its phraseology sounds awkward to me. 5) "Bespeak" means "to be evidence of," not "ask a question." My alternative line, "points to a curious thought," introduces a pun on the pointer figure while conveying the same basic idea you were, just not in the personal form. To me, it doesn't make much difference whether this idea is phrased personally or impersonally, but one could argue that the latter makes the poem more universally engaging. 6) No change in mine. 7) "Linger to place vast blame" doesn't make sense in this context; what you really mean, I think is "hesitate to place vast blame." That's why I added "in silence" here. Also, "vast" sounds like a throwaway word added just to fill the meter, which my change eliminates. 8 "They" or "man"--the choice is yours. The former keeps the focus more limited by referring (in my mind) back to "critics"; the latter universalizes it. For what it's worth, as a woman, I'm not keenly opposed to the gender-neutral usage of the word "man," and I employ it this way occasionally myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W. Parsley Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Hi Bob, I have been away awhile, so missed your entrance. Welcome to the site. I like the play on words and the thoughtful speculation. Cheers, - David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 Thanks David. Strange thing about writing. What passes through the mind of an author when writing can very well be misinterpreted by any reader. My recall to this type of knowledge goes back to my childhood days when we had only radio program stories to listen to. No matter how I would interpret a scenario, being vocally acted out by the actors, my young mind was educated to a limited amount of knowledge of understanding. However, as I grew older, my expanded learning would see a scenario totally different than several years previously. So.. reading Three Fingers and a Thumb, one must stretch the imagination a good bit to portray a physical situation of such great difference, other than what we know as truths about our physical appearance here on Earth. I enjoy writing. I have to admit, I didn’t think I would have caused that much of a controversy over a simple poetic anecdote. It is also one reason I enjoy writing poetic ballads. The imagination can run rampant at times. Another example is my story about “Whatzits.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Hi Bob, Yep that pointer digit does create mayhem. It always points away and at. Good one. ~~Judi 1 Quote ~~ © ~~ Poems by Judi Van Gorder ~~ For permission to use this work you can write to Tinker1111@icloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Good point, Bob. I always thought it ironical that if I am pointing with my "pointing" finger, three are pointing back at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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