dr_con Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 to an article a friend sent out, when I had finished had sent me this article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-should-not-try-to-absorb-religion-and-other-ways-of-knowing/ Other ways of knowing indeed;-) belief that persists today Con/Jur/d, 6/30/2021 I’m sorry Tom, I don’t mean to pick on you but it’s so it’s so, ignorant not that I’m any better. Modernity’s tribes, tend to believe in progress the scientific method, which, to them are magic When you say, “supposedly magical rituals” assuming you’re honest Your stockbroker, Your apps, screens and other magical sticks (Which, btw are not, I repeat, not as cool as a snake) of course, you’ve Outsourced your Shaman’s allowed them to hold trademarks, copyrights, patents believe they’re different from a world “inhabited by multitudes of usually unseen supernatural spirits or ghosts.” Ever hear of a Quark Tom? Or DNA, RNA the microbiome? Germ Theory, AI Nano-beads? Trading Bots? Tom. Tom, Tom, I don’t mean to pick on you I’ve visited your tribe sat through the lectures, watched the shows, and used the magic potions And I must say, I’m impressed, for Ape’s with little idea of what, why, how, not bad at all, it’s the feeling of being special I’m calling out. The idea you know what’s going on, how you’re going to die, and who will be waiting, when you do. Just saying you should, get it right since if they’re holding a staff, looking a little like a snake, you should learn to apologize now, https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/4400-year-old-shamans-snake-staff-discovered-finland-rcna1291 Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmarti1 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Stock brokers, apps, and screens as Tempter in the garden. My apostate and socialist self like that very much. 🙂 "Outsourcing shamans" should be a whole novella! Ha! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Juris, the linked article itself was tl;dr, but I did read your fine poem/reply. It's sharp and stings like a reprimand. Did you submit it to the author of the article? I hope so. In my view, "the science" these days amounts to a religion, because often it just boils down to consensus. As I like to say, I admit that I'm irrational when I say God exists. Someone who says he doesn't know, I get; there's rationality in that. But someone who says God doesn't exist is just as irrational as I am, and despite his protests, his saying so amounts to an expression of his "religion." Tony 1 Quote Here is a link to an index of my works on this site: tonyv's Member Archive topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W. Parsley Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Hi doc, yes, this piece touches on something elemental in the human experience and the way each human chooses to interpret and internalize that experience. It has a definite quality of irony but veers shy of anything that would feel like rebuke or harangue. The poet simply says, "We have all seen this before, right?" Like Marti, I took particular pleasure in specific epigrammatic lines and phrases, and the way you develop them into well-wrought conceits, as you do with great wit and elan in "outsourcing shamans" - brilliant! And to Ton'ys relevant digression, I would like to recommend a self-critical summary on scientism, a topic of some interest to me. I love science and I love God. Why can't I have both, as well as everything else that makes life so wondrous? Thanks (I think!), - Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_con Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 Ty all! Appreciate the feedback🤗 Quote thegateless.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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